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Pre-Op Appointment with transplant surgeon! Questions answered.

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Good news… our surgery date has been confirmed…

August 12th, 2011 I will get a beautiful new liver!

On Thursday Kelly and I (and my mom) had our pre-op appointments with our transplant surgeons. It went very well and I got so many of my questions answered. Kelly and I were able to combine our appointments with my surgeon. Because he is head of the transplant team he also sees the donor. Normally his pre-op appointment with the donor is separate from the recipient. His wife, another world-class liver transplant surgeon, will be performing Kelly’s surgery. So Kelly also had an appointment with her.

New info-left lobe
He spent about 45 minutes with us. I learned that UCSF has now started to use the donor’s left lobe of the liver. This is the smaller lobe/piece of liver, about 40%. They have found this decreases the risk for the donor. Although, it increases the risk a little for me, I will gladly take risk if it takes it off of Kelly! In taking the left lobe, I will be in ICU a little longer and recovery might take longer than with a right lobe. They have done about 20 left lobe transplants so far. The risk with the left lobe is that because it is such a small piece of liver, if there is too much blood pressure going through the portal vein (main liver vein) then the liver will not regenerate to full, working size (it won’t grow).

What they do to fix this is once they have “installed” my new liver (well, a portion of Kelly’s liver), they measure the blood pressure in the portal vein. If it is too high, then they need to re-route some of the blood to the vena cava vein. In doing this, it decreases the blood pressure going in to my liver so that my new liver piece can regenerate and in most cases the re-routing of the blood works itself out in time. The good news is that he said Kelly has a pretty good sized liver so hopefully everything will work out without having to re-route the blood flow.

Left & Right Liver Lobes

Kelly will keep the larger right lobe and I will receive the smaller left lobe

Other questions we had answered:
Pain Killers:

Donor- Kelly will be getting an epidural that she will be able to control, for up to 3 days. They will then start giving her oral pain killers. The reason for this is because the donor usually has quite a bit more pain than the recipient. Part of the reason for her increased pain is because it is her liver that is being “cut” and the other factor is that my anti-rejection drugs/steroids apparently will help reduce my pain.
Recipient- I will most likely be getting an IV of morphine or dilaudid for a few days and then I too will be put on oral pain killers.

Length of stay:
Donor- Kelly will be in the hospital anywhere from 4-7 days.
Recipient- With the left lobe making my recovery a little slower, I will be in the hospital 7-10 days.

Wound Closure:
Donor- Kelly will probably be getting glue and her incision will be smaller than mine and a different shape.
Recipient- I will be getting dissolvable sutures on my muscles and then staples to close my skin up. Also, if possible, they won’t be doing the typical upside down Y incision you see on most liver transplant recipients, they have found that if they do an upside down U that the wound heals faster. Kelly will have a straight line, I will have a rainbow! :p

I asked if I could somehow get pictures of the surgery. My doctor said “sure, just to buy a disposable camera and give it to one of the surgery nurses that will be in the room”! Haha He also said that once I am coherent (so that I would actually remember it) that they could bring me my cirrhosed liver to see. He said he had one patient take her liver home and keep it in her freezer!! Nasty!! That is where I draw the line. THEY can keep it….I just want to see it.

I-pod/Music during surgery:
I frequently have bad reactions to narcotics. I get every side-effect in the book and I have a tendency to be easily stressed too. In doing some research I found that people that listen to classical music during their surgery require less anesthesia to keep them under, have faster recovery times and less side-effects! So I asked if I could listen to my i-pod during surgery, he said yeah, he has had patients do that before…. whatever makes them happy. (So hopefully I won’t have hallucinations, severe intense itching, mood swings, nausea/vomiting, crazy cottonmouth and confusion. Like I said, I get lots of side-effects; so does my grandma… strange, but Kelly doesn’t, lucky girl!)

Medications post-transplant:
Donor- Kelly will have pain pills to take home. They say that the average need is to be on them for 3 weeks and then hopefully just at night for another week or so.
Recipient- I too will have pain pills after leaving the hospital. I will also be on Cellcept and Prograf as my immunosuppressants/anti-rejection meds as well as Prednisone (steroid). My surgeon said that hopefully I can get off prednisone within 6 months-2 years. I will quickly get down to only 5mg of Prednisone, which isn’t enough to give me the typical steroid moonface! Yay!

As long as we have private rooms (please pray that we do), we can have one person stay with us at night. When I am in ICU for the first few days visitors are very limited. Kids have to be screened by a nurse before they can go in (to make sure they aren’t sick because I will be on immunosuppressants). Also, they don’t allow flowers/plants (boo). Something about the possibility of bacteria being in the dirt/plant.

Mail/Get Well Cards (for those who have asked):
Physical Mail Delivery
During our hospital stay, mail will be delivered to our room each day. For prompt delivery, please address letters and cards with our room number and the words “Patient Mail” on the lower left corner of the envelope. Mail will be forwarded to our home address after we have been discharged. (Hopefully we will know when we are admitted the day before surgery what our room numbers will be.)

The addresses for the hospital is:
UCSF Medical Center
505 Parnassus Ave., Box 0208
San Francisco, CA 94143-0208

Both Kelly and I received packets regarding our surgery that may have pertinent information for anyone who is going to be having a transplant. I will try to look through it and add a post of anything I think may help other cirrhosis/transplant patients. I know it has helped me so much to talk to other transplant patients and to read their stories/blogs. A special thanks to Kelly (not my sister), Melissa and Nancy for sharing your transplant stories with me/us and answering all of our questions with kind and loving hearts. It means a lot!

“Wisdom is nothing more than healed pain.”


About Kortni

I received a living donor liver transplant from my amazing and selfless sister, when it failed, I got a 2nd transplant 4 days later from my other hero! I have an amazing family and wonderful, supportive boyfriend. I love hiking, photography, natural health care, being outdoors and crafts. Did I mention that Jesus is my best friend and He has blessed me immeasurably!

16 responses »

  1. Loved the photos of before and after “chopped liver” honey!! I’d never seen them before.

  2. Melissa Goleno

    Hey You,
    I’m so glad the meeting went well. They took my left lobe and I had the epidural for 6 day and was taking oral pain meds from day 3.

    • Oh wow! 6 days… I will let Kelly know that. She is bound and determined to get out as soon as possible haha. It’s been so great having you to give us info, especially because we have the same surgeons! =)

  3. Yes, I’ll be outta that place by day 4…. That’s more than enough time for me!! 😉

    • She lives! lol And here I thought you didn’t read our blog :p Yeah, yeah, just don’t bee too sad when I beat you at doing 12 laps/mile around the transplant floor and will win that t-shirt first! =)

    • Melissa Goleno

      OMG! Trust me I did NOT want to be in the hospital long, But you need to listen to your body. If anything were to go wrong, that’s the place you want to be. You will know when it’s time to go home. I have had MANY surgeries….. This is the MOTHER of all surgeries, like Nancy said.I went home on day 7.
      Everything will go just fine. It’s been almost 2 years and it seems so long ago now. I know what your going through. If you guys need to talk just call. 707-254-8938.

  4. Hi Kortni ! I am so happy for you! Good job on the explanation. I will pray for you, your sister, your families and the Doctors! Don’t forget the surgeons! I know you will be anxious to get out but another transplant friend of mine said *Don’t be in a hurry, let them take care of you* and he was right. Stay in the hospital, you will feel like you are ready to get out and go home but it is harder at home than you think it will be at first. Take your time and recover. This is not just *any* surgery…. It is the mother of ALL surgeries!


    • Thanks Nancy! Yes, I’m super thankful for my surgeons, my surgeon is awesome!! I plan on taking as much time as I need, although I am going to push I realize recovery is going to take a while. Thank you for the advice, I appreciate it and your prayers! =)

  5. Hi Kortni,

    I’m praying for you and sis. You ladies are going to terrific – I just know it. Thanks for sharing your story! Since I am still waiting for a transplant – your journey fills me with hope and courage!

    God Bless you and your sister!

  6. Love your page!!! I donated my right lobe to my mom 3 years ago at UCSF with the “dream couple” as I call the Ascher/Roberts team! Definitely give the disposable camera to them– our pictures are AWESOME!!!
    I will pray for you and your sister especially on August 12th! If you or your sister have any questions or want to talk to someone who has been through it at UCSF, please feel free to contact me at

    • Thanks Kari! I’m glad you like it =) That is awesome that you donated, what a gift for your mom. Haha yeah, I love Dr. Roberts! That’s cool that you got pictures too. And thank you so much for the prayers!! I have been really happy with UCSF. How is your mom doing?

  7. What wonderfully courageous people you all are.
    May God restore and heal you all quickly.
    Betty Hannon

  8. I will be praying for you!


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